In this episode, Daniel tells Jack about the so-called 'godfather of the alt-right' and Richard Spencer's claimed "mentor", Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, one of the most important and idiosyncratic influences on today's resurgent US white supremacism.
Warnings apply.
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Show Notes
Episode 18 additions:
Popular Front: "The American Militia Movement"
"Standoff: Between Two Shotguns" by Ruth Graham at Slate
Knowledge Fight Podcast
Jared Taylor and American Renaissance:
Jared Taylor SPLC
Sam Dickson at Atlanta Antifascists
"The Racists on Ridgeland Way: Ground Zero for Alt-Right Organizing in Atlanta
Sam Francis at the SPLC
"While always a staunch conservative, Francis's views radicalized over time. He began describing himself as a "paleoconservative" focused heavily on racial issues and ended up writing for racist publications like the Council of Conservative Citizens' (CCC) newsletter, Citizens Informer. (The CCC, which had from the late 1980s until the late 1990s dozens of state legislators and other politicians in its ranks, is a white supremacist group that focuses on issues like support for the Confederate battle flag and opposition to non-white immigration, school busing and affirmative action. The group was built using the mailing lists of the White Citizens Councils, organizations formed to fight school desegregation in the South.)
Francis' definitive break with more mainstream conservatism came with his 1995 firing from The Washington Times. The newspaper acted after conservative author Dinesh D'Souza quoted a Francis speech to a 1994 conference put on by the white supremacist and race science journal, American Renaissance. D'Souza wrote that Francis' comments embodied the "new spirit of white bigotry." "
Sam Francis at Amren 1994
American Renaissance SPLC
American Renaissance on Youtube
American Renaissance website
American Renaissance podcast
"A schism over anti-Semitism threatens a key 'white nationalist' group. The outcome could be critical to the radical right." https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2006/schism-over-anti-semitism-divides-key-white-nationalist-group-american-renaissance
"HERNDON, Va. -- For a gathering of people devoted to denouncing the inferiority of blacks and sounding the alarm about civilization-threatening Muslims, the biannual conferences thrown by the New Century Foundation, publisher of the racist newsletter American Renaissance, are decidedly genteel affairs. Men dress in suits and ties, women in formal business attire, and there are no uniformed skinheads or Klansmen to be seen. Large plasma television screens, Starbucks coffee spreads and fancy linens adorn the hotel meeting hall. Epithets have no place here.
Or at least they didn't. At the latest edition of the conferences that began in 1994, held this February at the Hyatt Dulles hotel, a nasty spat broke out that upset the gathering's decorum -- and may even shape the future of the radical right.
It began when David Duke, the former Klan leader and author of Jewish Supremacism, strode to a microphone after French author Guillaume Faye wrapped up a talk vilifying Muslims entitled "The Threat to the West." Duke thanked Faye for remarks that "touched my genes." But then he went one further.
"There is a power in the world that dominates our media, influences our government and that has led to the internal destruction of our will and spirit," Duke said, according to an undisputed account in The Forward newspaper.
"Tell us, tell us," someone in the back yelled.
"I'm not going to say it," Duke replied. Laughter began to fill the room, until a short, angry man leaped from his seat, walked up to Duke and began to curse.
"You fucking Nazi, you've disgraced this meeting!" he said."
2000 SPLC report on the first edition of the Color of Crime
The Color of Crime, 2011 edition
The Color of Crime, 2016 edition
Jared Taylor's introduction to the first American Renaissance conference, 1994 (Actual content starts about eight minutes in)
Amren 2019 conference speakers
Jared Taylor banned from Europe until 2021
"Jared Taylor, one of the most prominent white supremacists in the U.S., claimed on his website on Friday that he’d been “banned from Europe” until 2021.
The ban came as Taylor attempted to transfer in Switzerland for a flight to Finland. According to Taylor, Swiss police informed him that Polish authorities had barred Taylor from traveling through the Schengen Zone, a 26-country area of Europe allowing visa-free travel.
[...]
"Taylor had been planning on speaking at white supremacist conferences in Scandinavia, including one on Saturday in Stockholm that featured other well-known fascists like Mark Collett and Greg Johnson.
It’s unclear why Polish authorities issued a blanket ban against Taylor. Taylor attributed the ban to a 2018 trip to the country, where he gave multiple television interviews. During that trip, Taylor said that Polish police said he was “spreading a totalitarian ideology.” "
Jared Taylor and American Renaissance sues Twitter for banning over speech content.
American Renaissance Newsletter, November 1990
"Setting the Record Straight: Longtime Partner of Jared Taylor Addresses White Nationalist Criticism"
Paul Kersey at American Renaissance
"Stuff Black People Don't Like" January 2010 at the Internet Archive
SBPDL redirect at Unz Review
Conversations about the far-right's conversations, with Daniel Harper & Jack Graham
Tuesday, May 21, 2019
Wednesday, May 8, 2019
Episode 18 - Christian Identity, White Separatism, and the Militia Movement
This week, Daniel tells Jack about... well, the clue's in the title.
Direct Download / Permalink / IDSG on iTunes
Content Warnings apply for episode and show notes.
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Show Notes:
The Terrorist Next Door
"Alt-America: The Rise of the Radical Right in the Age of Trump"
Aryan Cowboys
American Experience: Oklahoma City
Bundyville, from Oregon Public Radio and Longreads, by Leah Sottile.
Bring the War Home
Blood and Politics
From John Earnest's (Poway synagogue shooters) manifesto:
"Plenty of people wrongfully identify with being Christian. Beyond the scope of time the Father and the Son made a covenant in eternity—that the Son would bring a people to Him that He may be glorified through them. I did not choose to be a Christian. The Father chose me. The Son saved me. And the Spirit keeps me. Why me? I do not know. And my answer to loving my enemies? Trust yids and their puppet braindead lemming normalfags to take one quote from the Bible and grossly twist its meaning to serve their own evil purposes—meanwhile ignoring the encompassing history and context of the entire Bible and the wisdom it takes to apply God’s law in a broken world."
Christian Identity at Wikipedia
RJ Rushdoony and Christian Reconstruction:
"McVicar notes that it’s during this time period that Rushdoony discovered the work of Cornelius Van Til, author of The New Modernism and father of a doctrine called “presuppositional apologetics.”
It isn’t necessary or even possible to delve too deeply into Van Til’s theology here, but a Cliff Notes version is helpful: Christians and nonbelievers alike comprehend the world based on certain presuppositions. Christians operate from a correct presupposition; nonbelievers do not, and ne’er the twain shall meet. According to Van Til, nonbelievers are incapable of accurately comprehending reality, and by extension, cannot develop a correct moral framework.
Van Til’s work pulled heavily from Kant, which appealed to the intellectual Rushdoony; so did his Reformed leanings, which Rushdoony shared. Van Til’s epistemology also validated the would-be philosopher’s Duck Valley observations.
But Rushdoony took Van Til’s thought a step further. If nonbelievers couldn’t be truly moral or reasonable, secular laws, based on secular reasoning, were therefore illegitimate. The answer to solving society’s problems – and to solving Duck Valley – lay in the application of biblical law."
Aryan Nations at the SPLC
"Butler openly admired Adolf Hitler and longed for a whites-only homeland in the Pacific Northwest. He retired as an aeronautical engineer at age 55 and moved to Hayden Lake, Idaho, in 1974. There, he bought an old farmhouse and formed his own "Christian Posse Comitatus" group. By 1977, Butler had decided to form the Church of Jesus Christ Christian at the farmhouse, and named its political arm Aryan Nations.
In 1980, Butler’s church was bombed, causing $80,000 in damage. Nobody was injured or arrested. Butler responded by building a two-story guard tower and posting armed guards around his 20-acre property.
In 1981, Butler hosted the first of what would be many annual Aryan World Congress gatherings on his property. It, and the confabs that would follow, attracted almost every nationally significant racist leader around. Among them: Tom Metzger, former Klansman and leader of White Aryan Resistance; Louis Beam, another onetime Klansman who promoted the concept of leaderless resistance; Don Black, the former Klansman who created Stormfront, the oldest and largest white nationalist forum on the Web; and Kirk Lyons, a lawyer who has represented several extremists and who was married on the compound by Butler."
Kirk Lyons at the SPLC
Lyons appeared on The Political Cesspool on 4/24/2019
The Butler Plan at the Northwest Front
"Harold Covington Died a Coward"
"For a time the program was co-hosted by Corinna Burt, a body builder who had a brief stint in the adult industry, under the alias “Axis Sally.” By 2013 she had left white nationalism behind, and, in an interview with the SPLC, explained that Covington’s goal was “to get a thousand alpha Aryan males to move to his neighborhood and then basically just start shooting everyone who isn’t white.”
Indeed, Burt painted a portrait of a man who was unstable and paranoid. He “called nearly everyone in the [white supremacist] movement a homosexual,” was petrified of the thought that black men wanted to rape him, and his apartment was “filthy” with “layers of grime” on the walls. In her words, Covington was “pretty much the most horrible person ever.”
His final years were spent making YouTube videos and podcasts for NF, much of which failed to gain traction even among other white nationalists. In the age of the alt-right, troll storms, racist memes, and torch marches, Harold’s influence had waned to practically nothing. When he was in the news, it was for calling Dylann Roof’s Charleston bloodbath “a preview of coming attractions” and speculating that The Right Stuff’s Mike Enoch was secretly Jewish.
[...]
"I had only ever written about this curmudgeonly racist once, but decided that he didn’t seem important enough to merit further attention. Looking back I stand by that calculation. His brother Ben probably summed it up the best, however, stating that “the bottom line here is that my brother is a coward. He has always been a coward and he will die a coward.” On July 14, 2018, Harold Armstead Covington died a coward at the age of 64. He will not be missed."
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"The Rise of the Balk Right"
Billy Roper Youtube
Billy Roper at the SPLC
Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association
Sovereign Citizen Movement at Wikipedia
Militia Movement at Rationalwiki
Shane Bauer at Mother Jones, "I Went Undercover with a Border Militia"
Hijacking America by Susan George
Fundamentals of Extremism
Direct Download / Permalink / IDSG on iTunes
Content Warnings apply for episode and show notes.
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Show Notes:
The Terrorist Next Door
"Alt-America: The Rise of the Radical Right in the Age of Trump"
Aryan Cowboys
American Experience: Oklahoma City
Bundyville, from Oregon Public Radio and Longreads, by Leah Sottile.
Bring the War Home
Blood and Politics
From John Earnest's (Poway synagogue shooters) manifesto:
"Plenty of people wrongfully identify with being Christian. Beyond the scope of time the Father and the Son made a covenant in eternity—that the Son would bring a people to Him that He may be glorified through them. I did not choose to be a Christian. The Father chose me. The Son saved me. And the Spirit keeps me. Why me? I do not know. And my answer to loving my enemies? Trust yids and their puppet braindead lemming normalfags to take one quote from the Bible and grossly twist its meaning to serve their own evil purposes—meanwhile ignoring the encompassing history and context of the entire Bible and the wisdom it takes to apply God’s law in a broken world."
Christian Identity at Wikipedia
RJ Rushdoony and Christian Reconstruction:
"McVicar notes that it’s during this time period that Rushdoony discovered the work of Cornelius Van Til, author of The New Modernism and father of a doctrine called “presuppositional apologetics.”
It isn’t necessary or even possible to delve too deeply into Van Til’s theology here, but a Cliff Notes version is helpful: Christians and nonbelievers alike comprehend the world based on certain presuppositions. Christians operate from a correct presupposition; nonbelievers do not, and ne’er the twain shall meet. According to Van Til, nonbelievers are incapable of accurately comprehending reality, and by extension, cannot develop a correct moral framework.
Van Til’s work pulled heavily from Kant, which appealed to the intellectual Rushdoony; so did his Reformed leanings, which Rushdoony shared. Van Til’s epistemology also validated the would-be philosopher’s Duck Valley observations.
But Rushdoony took Van Til’s thought a step further. If nonbelievers couldn’t be truly moral or reasonable, secular laws, based on secular reasoning, were therefore illegitimate. The answer to solving society’s problems – and to solving Duck Valley – lay in the application of biblical law."
Aryan Nations at the SPLC
"Butler openly admired Adolf Hitler and longed for a whites-only homeland in the Pacific Northwest. He retired as an aeronautical engineer at age 55 and moved to Hayden Lake, Idaho, in 1974. There, he bought an old farmhouse and formed his own "Christian Posse Comitatus" group. By 1977, Butler had decided to form the Church of Jesus Christ Christian at the farmhouse, and named its political arm Aryan Nations.
In 1980, Butler’s church was bombed, causing $80,000 in damage. Nobody was injured or arrested. Butler responded by building a two-story guard tower and posting armed guards around his 20-acre property.
In 1981, Butler hosted the first of what would be many annual Aryan World Congress gatherings on his property. It, and the confabs that would follow, attracted almost every nationally significant racist leader around. Among them: Tom Metzger, former Klansman and leader of White Aryan Resistance; Louis Beam, another onetime Klansman who promoted the concept of leaderless resistance; Don Black, the former Klansman who created Stormfront, the oldest and largest white nationalist forum on the Web; and Kirk Lyons, a lawyer who has represented several extremists and who was married on the compound by Butler."
Kirk Lyons at the SPLC
Lyons appeared on The Political Cesspool on 4/24/2019
The Butler Plan at the Northwest Front
"Harold Covington Died a Coward"
"For a time the program was co-hosted by Corinna Burt, a body builder who had a brief stint in the adult industry, under the alias “Axis Sally.” By 2013 she had left white nationalism behind, and, in an interview with the SPLC, explained that Covington’s goal was “to get a thousand alpha Aryan males to move to his neighborhood and then basically just start shooting everyone who isn’t white.”
Indeed, Burt painted a portrait of a man who was unstable and paranoid. He “called nearly everyone in the [white supremacist] movement a homosexual,” was petrified of the thought that black men wanted to rape him, and his apartment was “filthy” with “layers of grime” on the walls. In her words, Covington was “pretty much the most horrible person ever.”
His final years were spent making YouTube videos and podcasts for NF, much of which failed to gain traction even among other white nationalists. In the age of the alt-right, troll storms, racist memes, and torch marches, Harold’s influence had waned to practically nothing. When he was in the news, it was for calling Dylann Roof’s Charleston bloodbath “a preview of coming attractions” and speculating that The Right Stuff’s Mike Enoch was secretly Jewish.
[...]
"I had only ever written about this curmudgeonly racist once, but decided that he didn’t seem important enough to merit further attention. Looking back I stand by that calculation. His brother Ben probably summed it up the best, however, stating that “the bottom line here is that my brother is a coward. He has always been a coward and he will die a coward.” On July 14, 2018, Harold Armstead Covington died a coward at the age of 64. He will not be missed."
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"The Rise of the Balk Right"
Billy Roper Youtube
Billy Roper at the SPLC
Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association
Sovereign Citizen Movement at Wikipedia
Militia Movement at Rationalwiki
Shane Bauer at Mother Jones, "I Went Undercover with a Border Militia"
Hijacking America by Susan George
Fundamentals of Extremism
Wednesday, May 1, 2019
Episode 17 - Holocaust Denial Today
In the second part of our discussion of Holocaust Denial, we take a look at the phenomenon as it exists today.
Warnings strongly apply.
Direct Download / Permalink / IDSG on iTunes
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Show Notes:
Rabbi Recalls COming Face to Face with Shooter at California Synagogue
Robert Evans, "Ignore the Poway Synagogue Shooter's Manifesto: Pay Attention to 8chan's /pol/ Board"
Suspect of Possible Arson Attack at Escondido Mosque Leaves Note Referencing New Zealand Terrorist Attacks
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Holocoaster at Urban Dictionary (2009)
Holocoaster meme (text source)
Inside the Concentration Camps: Eyewitness Accounts of Life in Hitler's Death Camps (1946): "800 to 900 yards from the place where the ovens were, the prisoners were squeezed into little cars that ran on rails. In Auschwitz these cars had various dimensions and could hold up to 15 people. As soon as a car was loaded, it would be set in motion on an inclined plane that traveled at full speed down a corridor. At the end of the corridor there was a wall, and in the wall was the door to the oven. As soon as the car hit the wall, the door opened automatically, and the car would dip forward and pitch its cargo of living people into the oven. Right behind it came another car with another load, and so on."
Holocaster meme (Fun Will Set You Free)
Nick Fuentes "How to Make 6 million cookies"
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From TDS171 "The ParaStormies Present."
Enoch: Plus there's a goal here that's beyond getting fucking views and listens and shit.
Sven: Well the goal of getting using listeners is to get that to realize that bigger goal of our political aspirations.
Anglin: It's all about the numbers right now and transforming the ability of people to [gap] Certain way and normalizing shit. Yeah basically that's the entire goal is normalizing shit in people's minds. You see this stuff going on in high schools now like we have created a new youth subculture. Yes. Yes. Everything is going according to plan everything is going according to plan.
Sven: It doesn't matter who we are.
Yeah.
Enoch: But for real the the youth the under under 20 demographic is like forget about it. I was talking last night with a friend and we are talking about the Holocaust and what most of it is but how. It's hard to reach people that have had a certain level of programming.
So even even people that are like are sympathetic and right wing and like even the idea of like a white state is good. We still have this. They still get all fucked up and weird about talking about the Holocaust. But then when you talk to people that are like under 20 years old they don't give a fuck about the Holocaust. They think it's hilarious. Hitler is funny and cool and the idea of gassing Jews is like just a fucking joke. Yeah like they don't give a shit. They don't care.
Anglin: Right. You loaded a culture of complete nihilism and then somehow thought they could insulate themselves from that. Where nothing has any meaning at all. But then they're all in there like but one thing does have meaning. The Holocaust of the 6 million in the gas chambers that they get turned into lampshades. Say it doesn't work. Yeah.
Sven: And now the snake is eating its Curly Q sideburns tail.
It's funny how it's sort of like once you tell people there's nothing sacred there's nothing holy. But you know what this thing that happened to these Jews in this black and white looking shaky real camera from the 40s that nobody really knows what's going on. Like that's that's the thing. That's what you have to care about. You don't care don't care about anything else.
We care about these fucking these fucking Jews in Germany in Eastern Europe in the 40s and that's really important. What why.
Why was nothing important. Why the fuck do I give a shit about this bullshit.
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"Talking To Antifa and the Left - Bronxblogger, Tim Blake, Kevin Logan and Mike Enoch" (104,556 views currently.)
"TDS245 The Racewarski Continues"
Roscoe Jones "The Hebrew Connection"
"Why are there so many movies of the Shoah?
Of the garillions that allegedly died?
The Shoah was fiction.
Lies and confusion.
The Germans had nothing to hide.
So we've been told and some choose to believe it.
I know it's lies, wait and see.
Some day we'll break it, The Hebrew Connection, the white man, my brothers and me.
Who said that every kike would be found and round up, and put on a big boxcar?
Schlomo just told us that, and we all believed it.
Now it has done so much harm.
And it's too degrading to just keep stargazing.
It's time to unplug the TV."
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Himmler Posen Speeches (October 4, 1943):
https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-human-behavior/himmler-speech-posen-1943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRO04q_lQi4
"I want to also mention a very difficult subject . . . before you, with complete candor. It should be discussed amongst us, yet nevertheless, we will never speak about it in public. Just as we did not hesitate on June 30 to carry out our duty as ordered, and stand comrades who had failed against the wall and shoot them—about which we have never spoken, and never will speak. That was, thank God, a kind of tact natural to us, a foregone conclusion of that tact, that we have never conversed about it amongst ourselves, never spoken about it, everyone . . . shuddered, and everyone was clear that the next time, he would do the same thing again, if it were commanded and necessary.
I am talking about the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It is one of those things that is easily said. [quickly] “The Jewish people is being exterminated,” every Party member will tell you “perfectly clear, it’s part of our plans, we’re eliminating the Jews, exterminating them, a small matter.” [less quickly] And then along they all come, all the 80 million upright Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. [mockingly] They say: all the others are swine, but here is a first-class Jew. [a few people laugh] And . . . [audience cough] [carefully] . . . none of them has seen it, has endured it. Most of you will know what it means when 100 bodies lie together, when 500 are there or when there are 1000. And . . . to have seen this through and—with the exception of human weakness—to have remained decent, has made us hard and is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be mentioned. Because we know how difficult things would be, if today in every city during the bomb attacks, the burdens of war and privations, we still had Jews as secret saboteurs, agitators and instigators. We would probably be at the same stage as 16/17, if the Jews still resided in the body of the German people."
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Columbia Guide to the Holocaust
Warnings strongly apply.
Direct Download / Permalink / IDSG on iTunes
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Show Notes:
Rabbi Recalls COming Face to Face with Shooter at California Synagogue
Robert Evans, "Ignore the Poway Synagogue Shooter's Manifesto: Pay Attention to 8chan's /pol/ Board"
Suspect of Possible Arson Attack at Escondido Mosque Leaves Note Referencing New Zealand Terrorist Attacks
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Holocoaster at Urban Dictionary (2009)
Holocoaster meme (text source)
Inside the Concentration Camps: Eyewitness Accounts of Life in Hitler's Death Camps (1946): "800 to 900 yards from the place where the ovens were, the prisoners were squeezed into little cars that ran on rails. In Auschwitz these cars had various dimensions and could hold up to 15 people. As soon as a car was loaded, it would be set in motion on an inclined plane that traveled at full speed down a corridor. At the end of the corridor there was a wall, and in the wall was the door to the oven. As soon as the car hit the wall, the door opened automatically, and the car would dip forward and pitch its cargo of living people into the oven. Right behind it came another car with another load, and so on."
Holocaster meme (Fun Will Set You Free)
Nick Fuentes "How to Make 6 million cookies"
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From TDS171 "The ParaStormies Present."
Enoch: Plus there's a goal here that's beyond getting fucking views and listens and shit.
Sven: Well the goal of getting using listeners is to get that to realize that bigger goal of our political aspirations.
Anglin: It's all about the numbers right now and transforming the ability of people to [gap] Certain way and normalizing shit. Yeah basically that's the entire goal is normalizing shit in people's minds. You see this stuff going on in high schools now like we have created a new youth subculture. Yes. Yes. Everything is going according to plan everything is going according to plan.
Sven: It doesn't matter who we are.
Yeah.
Enoch: But for real the the youth the under under 20 demographic is like forget about it. I was talking last night with a friend and we are talking about the Holocaust and what most of it is but how. It's hard to reach people that have had a certain level of programming.
So even even people that are like are sympathetic and right wing and like even the idea of like a white state is good. We still have this. They still get all fucked up and weird about talking about the Holocaust. But then when you talk to people that are like under 20 years old they don't give a fuck about the Holocaust. They think it's hilarious. Hitler is funny and cool and the idea of gassing Jews is like just a fucking joke. Yeah like they don't give a shit. They don't care.
Anglin: Right. You loaded a culture of complete nihilism and then somehow thought they could insulate themselves from that. Where nothing has any meaning at all. But then they're all in there like but one thing does have meaning. The Holocaust of the 6 million in the gas chambers that they get turned into lampshades. Say it doesn't work. Yeah.
Sven: And now the snake is eating its Curly Q sideburns tail.
It's funny how it's sort of like once you tell people there's nothing sacred there's nothing holy. But you know what this thing that happened to these Jews in this black and white looking shaky real camera from the 40s that nobody really knows what's going on. Like that's that's the thing. That's what you have to care about. You don't care don't care about anything else.
We care about these fucking these fucking Jews in Germany in Eastern Europe in the 40s and that's really important. What why.
Why was nothing important. Why the fuck do I give a shit about this bullshit.
*
"Talking To Antifa and the Left - Bronxblogger, Tim Blake, Kevin Logan and Mike Enoch" (104,556 views currently.)
"TDS245 The Racewarski Continues"
Roscoe Jones "The Hebrew Connection"
"Why are there so many movies of the Shoah?
Of the garillions that allegedly died?
The Shoah was fiction.
Lies and confusion.
The Germans had nothing to hide.
So we've been told and some choose to believe it.
I know it's lies, wait and see.
Some day we'll break it, The Hebrew Connection, the white man, my brothers and me.
Who said that every kike would be found and round up, and put on a big boxcar?
Schlomo just told us that, and we all believed it.
Now it has done so much harm.
And it's too degrading to just keep stargazing.
It's time to unplug the TV."
*
Himmler Posen Speeches (October 4, 1943):
https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-human-behavior/himmler-speech-posen-1943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRO04q_lQi4
"I want to also mention a very difficult subject . . . before you, with complete candor. It should be discussed amongst us, yet nevertheless, we will never speak about it in public. Just as we did not hesitate on June 30 to carry out our duty as ordered, and stand comrades who had failed against the wall and shoot them—about which we have never spoken, and never will speak. That was, thank God, a kind of tact natural to us, a foregone conclusion of that tact, that we have never conversed about it amongst ourselves, never spoken about it, everyone . . . shuddered, and everyone was clear that the next time, he would do the same thing again, if it were commanded and necessary.
I am talking about the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It is one of those things that is easily said. [quickly] “The Jewish people is being exterminated,” every Party member will tell you “perfectly clear, it’s part of our plans, we’re eliminating the Jews, exterminating them, a small matter.” [less quickly] And then along they all come, all the 80 million upright Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. [mockingly] They say: all the others are swine, but here is a first-class Jew. [a few people laugh] And . . . [audience cough] [carefully] . . . none of them has seen it, has endured it. Most of you will know what it means when 100 bodies lie together, when 500 are there or when there are 1000. And . . . to have seen this through and—with the exception of human weakness—to have remained decent, has made us hard and is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be mentioned. Because we know how difficult things would be, if today in every city during the bomb attacks, the burdens of war and privations, we still had Jews as secret saboteurs, agitators and instigators. We would probably be at the same stage as 16/17, if the Jews still resided in the body of the German people."
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Columbia Guide to the Holocaust
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